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It's sometimes a little embarrassing to admit that some of my political/social views are, when you boil them down, as simplistic as you can get.

I do not wish to take away anything from anyone.  That's it.  That's where my stance on abortion and gay marriage comes from.  I have the right to marry; why shouldn't someone who swings the other way?  I, currently, have the right to choose if I were to ever become pregnant; the idea of taking that right away from myself and all women sickens me.

At the end of the day, it isn't the government who would have to make those decisions.  It's the individual person.  That person will decide if that man or woman is the one they want to marry, they would have to make the hard decision of abortion.  What they do is not any of my business and what I do is none of theirs.

If there is concern due to children?  Raise your children the way you want to, don't raise them via the TV.  Don't expect their teachers to teach and raise them.  When, if, I ever have children I hope to God I'll be able to raise them the way my parents raised me - to be accepting, to be willing to learn different view points, to be open.  I'd like to believe that every kid out there is being raised to be tolerant but I know they aren't and that saddens me.

If there is concern due to religion?  You know what?  There's an awful lot of people on this planet and, honestly, a majority of them can't even agree on the best type of peanut butter let alone the best type of religion.  In other words, if God is telling you that gays are bad?  Then I don't want anything to do with your god.  God was only really pissy in the first book, wasn't he?  I think he's become a bit of a nicer guy since the whole flood stuff.  (So says the person who last opened a bible.  In college?  I don't know, I'm probably closer to being an agnostic theist than anything else.)

I just.  Don't get it.  And maybe my views are simplistic but they don't hurt anyone.  I don't hurt anyone and whatever Person A does in their life?  It doesn't hurt me or affect me because it shouldn't.

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Date: 2009-06-03 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frito-kal.livejournal.com
Crunchy for sandwiches, creamy for baked goods. But really I prefer cashew butter.

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Date: 2009-06-03 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indiana-j.livejournal.com
And you like that god awful natural peanut butter stuff...

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Date: 2009-06-03 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frito-kal.livejournal.com
I love it. I am a peanut butter hippie. Peanuts, honey, that's all I need, yo.

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Date: 2009-06-03 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frito-kal.livejournal.com
Someday you're going to visit me, and I'm going to make you some honey-nut cashew cupcakes and then too will belong to the Holy Church of the Hippie Nut Butter.

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Date: 2009-06-04 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seraangel.livejournal.com
Nutty cupcakes!

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Date: 2009-06-03 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nute.livejournal.com
God was only really pissy in the first book, wasn't he?

I swear those books have the most annoying fandom ever.

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Date: 2009-06-03 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indiana-j.livejournal.com
SPOILERS! CAIN KILLS ABEL! SPOILERS!

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Date: 2009-06-04 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frito-kal.livejournal.com
Also the foreshadowing is SHIT. Blah, blah messiah, blah, blah, and he turns out to be some hippie carpenter who just talks a lot.

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Date: 2009-06-04 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-cassidy.livejournal.com
Well, that's only if you believe that part. Not everyone who believes in the books of the Old Testament consider the ones in the New Testament to be a part of the bible, so for these people the messiah has not yet arrived.

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Date: 2009-06-04 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-cassidy.livejournal.com
Thank you for this. It is so much better than the "I am right and you are wrong and if you don't agree with me you are a hateful bigot who doesn't believe people should have rights!" that seem to be the norm when people talk about views such as abortion and gay marriage. It is hard for me to understand how people feel that expressing such an attitude is beneficial; that is certainly not what will convince people to reconsider their views. Posts such as the one you have given us here, rather than proclaiming that the reader and anyone else who does not share the views mentioned must therefore be stupid and vile, present a well-thought out, non-offensive explanation.

Thank you, Jen.

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Date: 2009-06-04 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indiana-j.livejournal.com
Thanks, Cassidy. I normally don't put stuff out like this because I never know how it'll sound so I'm glad it came across so well.

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Date: 2009-06-04 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ferox.livejournal.com
This is pretty mum exactly how my parents, my father especially, raised me. My logic is, if a vicious athiest and a strict Greek Orthodox can get married and live happily ever after, we're doing it right.

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Date: 2009-06-04 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indiana-j.livejournal.com
*nods* Exactly - some of my economic/political views don't mesh with my parents (social, yes) but they never tried to change my mind or lashed out for the views not being similar. And they taught me to do that with everyone and that hatred doesn't get anyone anywhere.

(Also, aw.)

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Date: 2009-06-04 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seraangel.livejournal.com
Herehere, mate. Well said.

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Date: 2009-06-04 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indiana-j.livejournal.com
Thanks. :D I think this was one of my better written posts.

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Date: 2009-06-04 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starbuck09.livejournal.com
I agree! I think the thing that gets me (about religion) is that the bible that people follow so closely to be closer to God, wasn't written by God, wasn't written by Jesus, wasn't even written by the apostles themselves! Heck, back then it was normal for men to lay with men when they went away to war, no one had a problem back then. What I don't get is doesn't it say "Love they neighbor" and "thou shalt not judge"? It's amazing how much religions judge.

I think that maybe even one of the apostles was gay! I mean, they fawned over a guy in a dress...(gets ready for the bashing....>.<)

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